Dead Man's Claims For Sale in Alaska

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Discoveries »  +  ?  Results 1 to 9 of 9 5Likes TopAllThis Page 2Post By Steve Herschbach 1Post By oldbrundogg 2Post By Hoser John Thread: Dead Man's Claims For Sale in Alaska«Prev Thread | Next Thread»LinkBack LinkBack URL About LinkBacksThread ToolsShow Printable VersionEmail this Page…Subscribe to this Thread… Ignore this ThreadSearch Thread Advanced SearchDisplayLinear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded ModeFeb 13, 2013, 09:37 PM#1Steve Herschbach Apr 2005Anchorage AlaskaAt the moment: Fisher F75 SE, Gold Bug 2, Gold Bug Pro; Garrett Pro-Pointer; Minelab CTX 3030, GPX 5000; White's DFX w/Bigfoot, Spectra V3i195 49 times Prospecting Dead Man's Claims For Sale in Alaska

Well, I almost bought a few more claims. These ones have history galore and I have set foot on them.

Back in the last gold rush in the 1970s the Fortymile country of Alaska was a hotbed of dredging activity. A very rich strike was made on the South Fork of the 40 Mile River at the mouth of Napoleon Creek. Hundreds of ounces of nugget gold were recovered that no doubt sourced out of Napoleon, known for it's large gold.

Later, two groups of miners attempted to dredge through the ice on the river on the same ground. They fought constantly, and finally one of the only genuine miner shot the other miner murders in Alaska in recent menory actually happened. Two young prospectors bushwhacked and killed the other two miners back in 1977 Lakeland Ledger - Google News Archive Search

The ground was hit hard by 8" and larger dredges and pretty much mined out. The ground went idle and changed hands over the years. Finally it was staked again in 2009 by a non-miner smart enough to go out and find what open ground he could. More power to him. Now three of his claims are up for sale - the infamous claims at the mouth of Napoleon Creek.

And I almost bought them. I see the ads posted at Alaska Gold Mining Claims For Sale or Lease first and yes I do look at them hard! These were so cheap I had to really think it over and so called the owner and held them off the market a few days.

They are state river bottom claims in the middle of BLM administered Wild & Scenic land. This means you need an APMA from the state to dredge and permits from BLM to camp onshore. No big deal and the gov people are fine to work with but it is a pile of paper. Access is from the bridge a few miles upstream by jet boat or overland by a couple ATV trails.

My interest was decent access and a bunch of river ground. No doubt all the good stuff is gone but there are probably places that got missed. The main thing is the 8" dredges of the day put most of the small gold back in the river. A good fine gold recovery system should eke out wages. This would not be get rich ground. This would be getting leftovers ground. Like maybe a gram or two an hour on -20 mesh with an 8" dredge - but do not hold me to that.

Still, I thought, love the area, and for $6000 a claim I figured I could get my money back easy enough. Then my fantasies subsided and I realized I have enough ground to keep me busy for years already. Even then I was tempted to buy them as an investment. Be a good place to lease to wannabe miners looking more for the experience than a ton of gold. There is a least a chance of making a buck or two, not because the ground is hot, but because the price of gold is what it is.

Anyway, this sounds like a sales pitch but I have no vested interest in the ground other than I almost bought it myself. It just really is an interesting spot and I wanted to tell the story behind it. If you have your head screwed on straight it could be a good spot for somebody and affordable enough. Probably could debate that $6000 is too much for a worked out claim but I have a $6000 metal detector so it does not seem like much to me. If somebody buys it (I am sure someone will) I would like to keep up with what happens as I am just over the hill mining myself this summer. Be fun to have somebody get it and do real well so I can kick myself in the butt later!

I took the photo below back around 2001 standing at mouth of Napoleon looking downstream.

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Yesterday, 04:17 AM#2oldbrundogg Sep 2012Oroville99.00 something or other from big 574 36 times

I think you and Terry should go in on it together based on the interaction between you guys I'm sure Discovery Channel could create a show, or Life Time Network?
Just joking, sorry couldn't stop myself.
But really just to work in such a beautiful spot.
Thank you for the share.and allowing me to make myself laugh.
OBD

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Wannabe miner here (haha). Anybody have any idea what the legal ramifications of an adventure dredging camp would be? Contracts, waivers, and licensing? Seems like with all the recent publicity (bearing sea gold, gold rush, jungle gold, bamazon, gold fever) there are probably a huge number of people who want to mine, but don't have a clue. Personally I prefer prospecting, it's as much about the time with my family as finding anything shiny.

That said, people pay $1500 to shoot hogs from helicopters. Grab a couple claims, dredges, and those half tent/cabins the Boy Scouts use at their summer camps and charge people $500 for a week as an Alaska Gold Dredger. They keep what they find, learn a little bit from an experienced dredger and walk away with a better understanding of our passion.

Could be because it's really early in the morning, but that sounds like it could work to me.

Reply With Quote Yesterday, 10:21 AM#4Hoser John Mar 2003Redding,Calif.2,212 256 times All Types Of Treasure Hunting

Not only no but LL no. My friends have been in that exact neck a the woods for years now from Texas and just hit too hard as 2-8"s and a 5" still nuttn' but beans. John my bud spend a complete summer in 2011 and left a brand new 6" there to rot. Fast Freddie too said no mas as more by pan here than there with a dredge... been there and done that myself late 70s-early 80's and not EVER gonna go play there again as ungodly costs,permits,harrasment,bugs and "the bears."....John

Goodyguy and Astrobouncer like this. Reply With Quote Yesterday, 11:08 AM#5Steve Herschbach Apr 2005Anchorage AlaskaAt the moment: Fisher F75 SE, Gold Bug 2, Gold Bug Pro; Garrett Pro-Pointer; Minelab CTX 3030, GPX 5000; White's DFX w/Bigfoot, Spectra V3i195 49 times Prospecting

"Anybody have any idea what the legal ramifications of an adventure dredging camp would be?"

Yeah, I do. I have all mine for this summer just over the hill from these claims. Need to get permits in very soon to have a shot at this summer. Alaska Gold Dredging Adventure 2013 Part 1

But this is not a sales pitch so do not take it as such. Like I said and John confirms making beans kind of ground. I like the story behind them more than anything. And I do plan on visiting the new owners, whoever they may end up being.

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Reply With Quote Today, 12:02 AM#663bkpkr Northern CaliforniaAug 2007Northern CaliforniaXLT, GMT, 6000D Coinmaster1,179 260 times All Types Of Treasure Hunting

The summers are short and though Steve 'enjoys' dredging after hacking the ice off of his equipment I do not. The mosquitoes are THICK, black bears as well as Grizzly's are there and can be thick at times, Ever been hit by a two ton truck then stay away from the moose as they are up there as well and will run you down. The country is AWESOME! The rivers can be highways but they are big, deep, usually fast, can be Very Rough and in some places the Northern Pike are supposed to be 7' to 8' long. Alaska is an ADVENTURE! Been there on a Moose Hunting Raft Trip, our Moose walked right into camp likely smelled the California odor coming of of me and figured it was safe to step out into the open, Not! Bald Eagles, fish of all types, BIG bear tracks in the sand along Saint Ann's Creek made me feel uncomfortable with Only a .44 Mag in my shoulder holster. Awesome country............63bkpkr

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Reply With Quote Today, 12:58 AM#7Steve Herschbach Apr 2005Anchorage AlaskaAt the moment: Fisher F75 SE, Gold Bug 2, Gold Bug Pro; Garrett Pro-Pointer; Minelab CTX 3030, GPX 5000; White's DFX w/Bigfoot, Spectra V3i195 49 times Prospecting

I am getting wimpy as I get older. I am getting out of the water before it freezes these days. It is actually one reason I am dredging in the 40 Mile this summer. Water gets warmer in Interior than down here around Anchorage. The water here all comes off ice fields and never really warms up. I have been swimming in the 40 Mile it gets so warm some summers.

You are right about the country being awesome!

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Reply With Quote Today, 01:18 AM#8Reed Lukens Jan 2013Alta, CaliforniaWhites GMT, Vsat, MXT, 5900Di Pro, Minelab GPX 5000, GPxtreme, 2200SD, Excalibur 1000223 90 times All Types Of Treasure Hunting

[QUOTE=Hoser John?? been there and done that myself late 70s-early 80's and not EVER gonna go play there again as ungodly costs,permits,harrasment,bugs and "the bears."....John[/QUOTE]

Vuts vrong Girlyman... Is duh vater to cold for your little tootsies these days? haha hose ?. lol. I couldn't resist... love Reed,
I am laughing so hard right now... lol

Reply With Quote Today, 09:44 AM#9Hoser John Mar 2003Redding,Calif.2,212 256 times All Types Of Treasure Hunting

Hose is old and NOT so bold Reed. Mo'fun playn' catch me ifn'ya can man. I love it Herb when ya say undergunned with that 44 mag hand cannon ya tote around!!!! Bustn' bootie just to hit permafrost sucks and da' bears. Quckie one-Ol'Mel unbars ,unlocks and throws open the front door to the cabin in the am without unbarring and unlocking windows first to looksie first--da' bears of the white kind jus' a waitn' fer breakfast...yep jus' toooooo old I guess now..hahaha but still alive and mo'than jus' a kickn' though. John

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